ok guys, got a buddy that doesnt body build, he power lifts, he wants to gain pure mass and strenght in 6-8 wks. He has a routine that he he has been doing for a couple of years, and he holds acouple of titles in his wt class, not sure but i think it 195-215 in the over 35 class. He is a firm believer in test 400 every 3days and d-bol(not sure how much d-bol) but my question to you guys is,,,,,,,,What is your opinion, i am his source and my new source doesnt have t4. He is getting ready to start his cycle in 3wks and im not sure on the bulk for strenght thing. Can you help me with what i should rec. for him. Hes a very good friend and im his source so i dont wont this to come between us, personally or source related. Any help would be rec. Thanks brothers

hi GS, how many cycles have your bud done before? also what were your previous cycles? still waiting on your reply..
need to know a little more about your bud,cycles he has done.. then i can say what i think..cheers bud..

Hes 38 been power lifting for many years, he is a firm believer in uni vet 400 and d-bol( like i said im not sure how much d-bol but i know for 6-8wks before his comp. he would go heavy on on the d-bol and go at least 1200 on test a week if not more. My uni vet source fell out so i have went with GAULSUSA. They dont have t4 and the cyp and enan is 200, the t4 had 200 c and 200e in it, the main problem is if i get enough cyp200 and enan200 for what hes used to it is going to cost over double what the uni t4 cost, can you see my point. My question was if you knew any other cycles that would blow him and his strenght up, i know he will get what l rec,but i hate to lose a customer due to price. Maybe this will help you. The dbol is not a problem because i got him enough before the last comp. to last awhile. Any cheap dbol specials is appreciated

Hi GS, if he is looking for shear mass like you said how about this one for him..
Bread and Butter Cycle For Mass..
1-12-test e @ 1200 p/w (split in 2) (like you said he would do)
1-10-Deca @ 600 p/w (split in 2)
1-6 d/bol @ 50 p/d

Then PCT @ 14- 17
This will give your bud some mass..

is this going to give strenght also, I workout to better my look and get bigger with out the blowfish look, these power lifters dont care as long as they get strong quick, this is why im concerned. If he wanted to get his look on for the beach i would have all the answers he needed, but pure strenght in short periods im not sure...... I def. appreciate your comment

For sure bud..d/bol gives you the strength of an ox..

thanks bro

Your Welcome.....

great advice steve except d/bol will give you the water bloat. to avoid that id go for the t/bol 4-6 weeks in the beginning of the cycle, you can also run it 4 weeks at the end of it too.

Yeah gettingstronger do not mind the bloat as its for his friend. .He is after strength and rapid mass wanna..